clades!!

Oct. 31st, 2023 12:11 pm
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In Ann Leckie's Translation State, Presger Translator society thinks of itself in terms of clades--like lineages among plain old non-Presger Translator humans, but clade also has an everyday, this-world meaning, which is a taxonomical group that shares a common ancestor.

Humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, orangutans, and gibbons are in the hominoid clade. They share with Old- and New-World monkeys the clade of anthropoids. Anthropoids and prosimians (a group that includes lemurs and tarsiers) comprise the primate clade. Primates are part of the clade euarchontoglires, along with rodents and rabbits, and then comes the clade eurtheria, which are placental mammals... and eventually if you keep going, we all--and now I'm including plants, slime molds, and fungi--are in the clade eukaryota, and you have to go even further back to get a connection with bacteria and archaea.

Still, we're all family. Do you feel heartwarmed? I feel heartwarmed.

Date: 2023-10-31 07:58 pm (UTC)
zdenka: Miriam with a tambourine, text "I will sing." (Default)
From: [personal profile] zdenka
I love the concept of clade! And how it relates to birds and dinosaurs.

Date: 2023-10-31 08:25 pm (UTC)
zdenka: Miriam with a tambourine, text "I will sing." (Default)
From: [personal profile] zdenka
Yes, and also how birds are dinosaurs because all birds are a clade descending from a birdlike dinosaur ancestor, and dinosaurs without birds are not a clade.

Date: 2023-10-31 09:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yamamanama
Cormorants.

Date: 2023-10-31 08:04 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sartorias
I love the this-world, everyday meaning!

Date: 2023-10-31 09:46 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yamamanama
I do find it interesting that our close non-chordate relatives include echinoderms, which are so completely unlike us.

Date: 2023-10-31 11:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nineweaving
I think you'll like this song by the Vox Hunters.

One Species Are We

Nine

Date: 2023-11-01 12:07 am (UTC)
nineweaving: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nineweaving
You're welcome! They are lovely guys. They came to TradMad camp its first year and sang that song. The next year, they were beloved members of the staff and have been ever since.

Nine

Date: 2023-11-01 12:20 am (UTC)
nineweaving: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nineweaving
So glad!

Nine

Date: 2023-11-01 02:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] amaebi
I do. I always have.

Since I got to thinking about it I've been very puzzled at human perseveration over various (eventually busted) Human Separation and Superiority Schemes.

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