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I’ve always thought that education was one of the only things worth going into debt to obtain—and boy did I go into debt obtaining mine—but that was about the extent of my suffering for education. But for some people? We’ve all heard stories of hardship and sacrifice, but sometimes new ones can strike with fresh force.

This morning, I was blown away by a description an Australian educator shared of the dedication of Timorese teachers, seeking out instruction in English and Portuguese (bolding mine):

In 2001 I taught English to classes of 40-odd teacher-education students in Kaikoli, "the burned campus" ... Students came to classes often with nothing more to eat than a packet of dry Super-Mi [ramen noodles] and even sometimes shaking with fever. Alongside me, other teachers taught Portuguese to classes of future teachers in classes of often twice that number. We worked in noisy, dirty, mosquito-infested rooms with no glass in the windows, no desks and no books. Yet student attendance was high and their enthusiasm for learning both languages was immense.1

But even in this country, there are stories. The tall one told me on Friday about a young woman he’d struck up a conversation with on the bus from Northampton to Springfield. Those two cities aren’t very distant, in terms of miles, but because of the route the bus takes, the journey takes about two hours. The young woman, like the tall one, rides that bus daily. He works in Springfield; she’s going to school at Springfield Technical Community College. But her journey is even longer than his, as she first takes a bus from Greenfield to Northampton . . . and even before that, she is driven by her parents from one of the hilltowns in to Greenfield to catch the bus. All in all, she spends three hours each way on her commute.

That’s how precious education is--so precious that you’d attend classes feverish and half starved, or spend six hours a day traveling for the privilege.

1Quoted from Kerry Taylor-Leech, with permission.


Date: 2013-11-12 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queenoftheskies.livejournal.com
Sometimes, I think the people who have to work harder/suffer more for education really appreciate it more than the people who get it for free/have an easy road.

Date: 2013-11-12 05:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mnfaure.livejournal.com
Ditto this. Always.

Date: 2013-11-12 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I am absolutely sure this is true.
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Date: 2013-11-12 10:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I think I'd phrase my wish slightly differently (because things don't appear out of nowhere; food has to be raised, by someone who has to work to raise it, and clothing must be made, etc. etc.), but I do wish that all people could be assured of all of these things.

Date: 2013-11-12 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
My grandfathers were colliers and always told me to get an education and move on.

I'm glad I took their advice and I'm glad someone came up with the seed money for that first degree (my school days were a disaster) something government is unwilling to do these days. Wthout that, I'd have fetched up as yet another working class person in a factory.

Date: 2013-11-12 05:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] heleninwales.livejournal.com
You might not, or at least not for all of your life. The Open University has given a lot of working class people and continues to do so.

But that that also helps to support what [livejournal.com profile] asakiyume was saying because I've known so many OU students struggle to study whilst coping with all sorts of difficulties. They often put youngsters who have the luxury of full-time study to shame.

Date: 2013-11-12 10:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
Adults who return to education pursue it with much more dedication (generally speaking) than adolescents who are just going through the motions because it's expected of them.

Date: 2013-11-13 12:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
One of my higher degrees was done with the OU- it's a demanding way to study having had the experience to compare! :o)

I suspect, though, that due to the other issues in my life of which you are aware, without the escape into full time education, I might not have lasted all that long.

Date: 2013-11-12 10:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
Your grandfathers were wise men.

Date: 2013-11-13 12:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Communists and union activists too! :o)

Date: 2013-11-12 08:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athgarvan.livejournal.com
That is why Edmund Rice, wealthy businessman from Waterford in early 1800s sold all he had when his young wife died and gave over his life to the education of needy young boys. Those who followed his "way" and system are found now all over the world, still doing the work he began.

Date: 2013-11-12 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
He sounds like a man with a great vision.

Date: 2013-11-12 11:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] khiemtran.livejournal.com
And also: despite best efforts, education doesn't always succeed. How would it feel to be turning up to class starving or sick with fever and still be struggling to learn English or Portuguese or to feel that you're not going to make the cut at the end.

Date: 2013-11-12 11:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
Yes--a terribly sobering thought :-(

The comment arose in the context of what's a VERY heated and contentious discussion about language instruction, learning, competence--and then from there it bleeds into discussion of official languages and national self-determination. It's a terrible can of worms, and I'm happy to lurk and read, but it's not something that has one easy answer.

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