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I love that the British government is sending out warships to bring its stranded citizens home. I also love that in British English touring buses are called coaches, because then, when the BBC says that they are also sending coaches to help bring people home, you can picture this huge gathering of teams of coaches-and-six, horses stamping, people climbing in.

Let's hear it for international emergencies that (a) don't involve one group of people hurting another and (b) involve (as far as I know?) no loss of life. Really just huge inconveniences. But what an adventure! I suppose I'd be pretty stressed out if I were stranded in a foreign country, but if I wasn't about to have a baby or in need of medical attention, I think it would be exciting, all things considered. Thrown together with other people, maybe being the recipient of the kindness of strangers... neat.

When 9-11 happened, we hosted some stranded tourists, friends of my husband's parents, who had been seeing the sights in New England and were stuck here. 9-11 was awful, but hosting people in an emergency was wonderful and warm.


Date: 2010-04-19 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com
Trying to explain to my friends that this is not, in fact, a sign of the end times is, however, getting mighty old.

Date: 2010-04-19 02:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
Tell me about it: I had just watched 2012. Hah hah. Silly movie ...

(I mean, it was a totally silly movie, but....)

Date: 2010-04-19 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cucumberseed.livejournal.com
Yeah. I know. I have to imagine it's really effective on parents. I hate when fiction takes advantage of people for the purpose of spectacle, and while Judd Apatow is still top of my list for people in Hollywood who need to burn for what they've done, and Michael Bay is second, the guy responsible for 2012 is third, which is kind of saying something.

Date: 2010-04-19 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dulcinbradbury.livejournal.com
Let's hear it for international emergencies that (a) don't involve one group of people hurting another and (b) involve (as far as I know?) no loss of life. Really just huge inconveniences. But what an adventure!

I'm totally with you on this.

Date: 2010-04-19 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
If only there were fewer of the other sort of emergency!

Date: 2010-04-19 02:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lizziebelle.livejournal.com
I with you; I would think it would be an adventure. My brother is in Germany right now, but staying with cousins, so I doubt he's at all worried.

Date: 2010-04-19 03:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
He'll have quite a story to tell when it's all over.

Date: 2010-04-19 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
Amen, amen, amen.

Date: 2010-04-19 05:56 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-04-19 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saladinahmed.livejournal.com
"when the BBC says that they are also sending coaches to help bring people home, you can picture this huge gathering of teams of coaches-and-six, horses stamping, people climbing in."

Or, if you're an American-raised dude scarred by gym class, you can, with a shudder, picture a boatload of middle-aged, beer-bellied guys with whistles around their necks, bullying/rallying the crowds of temporarily displaced travelers: "Alright, you pansies! This is what we're gonna do!! We're gonna get our butts home RIGHT NOW!! Are you wimps gonna let a damn volcano beat you? Well, ARE YOU!?"

Date: 2010-04-19 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
LOL (literally)!

I had totally forgotten about that meaning :D

Date: 2010-04-19 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newsboyhat.livejournal.com
I was still living in Halifax when 9/11 happened, and our airport got a lot of transatlantic flights intended for New York. I remember sitting on the bus on the way to school--it was a public bus, because I went to school downtown--and there were Americans sitting near me talking about how hospitable our city had been. Like you, some of us hosted the stranded tourists! :)

Date: 2010-04-19 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I remember that! I remember Nova Scotia in particular!

I have to say, my every encounter with Nova Scotia, through friends, LJ, and the news, is positive :-)

Date: 2010-04-19 03:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skogkatt.livejournal.com
Yes, that is the neat thing about things like this! Moss was telling me that there are some Agile (which is a computer programming style) developers stranded in London who have decided to throw an impromptu Agile conference there. How fun is that?

And hee! Coaches! I love it.

Date: 2010-04-19 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
LOL, coaches--did you see [livejournal.com profile] saladinahmed's comment :D

And impromptu programming conferences FTW!

Date: 2010-04-19 05:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] skogkatt.livejournal.com
Yes I did! I imagine them wrangling stranded tourists and saying, "Walk it off!"

Date: 2010-04-19 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bogwitch64.livejournal.com
Thank you for linking that. It is SO GREAT to see kindness released into the world rather than the stuff we usually get from the news.

Date: 2010-04-19 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I know! I love it!

Date: 2010-04-19 07:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sovay
I love that the British government is sending out warships to bring its stranded citizens home.

That is pretty awesome.

Date: 2010-04-19 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I thought so too--best news story of the morning.

Across-channel history

Date: 2010-04-20 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ri-whittlesey.livejournal.com
Pity the French stopped the attempt at a Dunkirk re-enactment. (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/19/world/europe/19evacuation.html?th&emc=th)

Date: 2010-04-19 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] osprey-archer.livejournal.com
Oh, I agree! Both with the image of the coaches and six rushing around the continent saving stranded tourists, and the fact that this international emergency looks like an adventure (possibly an annoying adventure for those involved, but its always the annoying ones that make the best stories), and inspiring.

The modern outpouring of support for disaster relief gives me hope in the idea of human progress. If only we could generalize this generosity to the disasters we create as well!

Date: 2010-04-19 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
If only we could generalize this generosity to the disasters we create as well!

Amen--but culpability and anger/fear get in the way, alas.

Date: 2010-04-20 01:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redcoast.livejournal.com
I was thinking about how this is like 9/11 - remember how the skies were clear?

Date: 2010-04-20 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
I do! And in fact, one of my UK LJ friends ([livejournal.com profile] heleninwales) posted a photo of an empty blue sky the first day air space over there was closed--and that's what I thought of.

Date: 2010-04-20 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peppergrass.livejournal.com
Yes yes yes, everything you said.

Date: 2010-04-20 12:38 pm (UTC)

Semantic buses

Date: 2010-04-20 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ri-whittlesey.livejournal.com
I love that in British English touring buses are called coaches.

Aren't semantic boundaries fun? The British have a point, in that over-the-road "buses" are closer in function to the old over-the-road coaches than they are to urban omnibuses. On the other hand, an over-the-road bus is built more like an omnibus than it is like a horse-drawn coach.

I wonder how the two nations arrived at those choices? I wonder whether it's related to the American railroad "car" versus the British railroad "carriage" -- that, when over-the-road buses were developed, the over-the-road coaches felt like a more distant memory in America than they did in Britain?

I wonder whether horse-drawn over-the-road coaches actually persisted longer in Britain, for all that Britain was more industrially advanced through most of the 19th century, and probably had railroads developed earlier?

(Come to think of it, I wonder about that? The British were equal or, probably ahead, in the engineering; but, maybe, British railroads replaced existing over-the-road transportation, but in America railroads often went where there'd been no satisfactory land transportation at all.)

Re: Semantic buses

Date: 2010-04-20 06:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asakiyume.livejournal.com
It's a very good question! I should put it to my friends at Merriam-Webster and see what they turn up.

I suspect, based on things my husband has told me, that horse-drawn stuff did persist longer in England than it did here, though whether that affect the choice of term would be hard to say.

It might just come down to what the various enterprises chose to call themselves. In other words, if the best-established touring service in England chose to call its vehicles "coaches," whereas in this country entrepreneurs chose "bus," that would affect the term the public used. Sort of like us calling clear adhesive tape "Scotch tape" after that manufacturer's name for it, whereas in England they call it "Sellotape"--also a manufacturer's name.

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